I know if 1 letterbox that was in an ammo can. I think the reason was because there were dvds in it for the first 10 or so finders. Other types of boxes I've seen are medicine bottles (micro boxes) and film canisters.

Enjoy!
donutz716

Baker wrote:
I am looking for a more hardier, element proof container. Right now I
am a lock-n-lock boxer and have so far had good luck with them.
However, I am planning on upgrading two of my remote places from
rubbermaid to ammo cans. My question is do any boxers that you know of
use ammo cans? I know that they are a main stay of geocachers and for a
boxer they are a little too big for many situations. I am figuring of
using them in remote locactions where a good hidding spot is easy to
find or make.

My other question is have any of you made your own container or is
there a similar strength container out there that you have used or run
across that my be a little more applicable to letterboxing?

Thank you






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I have a box in an ammo can, and unless you have a good supply of natural camo, they can be hard to
place. Its bee in place 4 years and looks just like the day I planted it. I have come across a
couple with broken latches. Don't know if they were planted that way or were broken by visitors,
but even so the contents were dry. Having one in a remote spot makes it easier of course. Another
good choice is a decon container. It's slightly larger than the old metal Band-Aid container, water
tight, but HARD to find. They hold the contents of the military decontamination kits. You'd be
hard pressed to get one of the small Strathmore wire bound sketch pads in it, but a custom pad would
work well.



TT



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At 05:37 AM 4/20/2008, you wrote:
>I am looking for a more hardier, element proof container. Right now I
>am a lock-n-lock boxer and have so far had good luck with them.
>However, I am planning on upgrading two of my remote places from
>rubbermaid to ammo cans. My question is do any boxers that you know of
>use ammo cans? I know that they are a main stay of geocachers and for a
>boxer they are a little too big for many situations. I am figuring of
>using them in remote locactions where a good hidding spot is easy to
>find or make.
>
>My other question is have any of you made your own container or is
>there a similar strength container out there that you have used or run
>across that my be a little more applicable to letterboxing?
>
>Thank you

IF you're not against a sturdy plastic, I'd think the containers that
I use to store rods for welding in would work good. They are round,
though, about 12" long, and probably 3" in diameter, with a screw on
lid, and is water tight, to keep your rods from drawing damp. Check
them out at any place that sells welding supplies, or you can take a
look at one at Amazon.com... will post link below. :-)

http://www.amazon.com/US-Forge-Storage-Container-00171/dp/B000UVL5F8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1208697828&sr=8-2

Gary

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The greatest problem we see with ammo cans is their large size.
Similar to paint cans (which we have also found in remote areas.) We
plan to try a round can in which we bought Irish Oatmeal. It is metal
and closes with a tight-fitting cap like a paint can. The clue will
need to advise boxers to bring a bottle opener, screwdriver, or other
pry tool to loosen the top. But it is much smaller than the other
larger containers. It will have plenty of room for hitchhikers, large
log book, etc.

Grumpy Grinch

Hey - a word of caution - I made a mistake of mentioning to a park
ranger that I had planted a box and he sort of freaked out. He said
I had to remove it - yea right.

Anyway, he was saying that a box was found in one park and the feds
were called in and blew up someone's geo-cache because it showed up
some evidence of gun powder (I'm not sure of all the details).

So---- unless you want your box on CNN, be careful with the camo -
(of course, I know that's tempting, too).





--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Baker"
wrote:
>
> I am looking for a more hardier, element proof container. Right
now I
> am a lock-n-lock boxer and have so far had good luck with them.
> However, I am planning on upgrading two of my remote places from
> rubbermaid to ammo cans. My question is do any boxers that you
know of
> use ammo cans? I know that they are a main stay of geocachers and
for a
> boxer they are a little too big for many situations. I am figuring
of
> using them in remote locactions where a good hidding spot is easy
to
> find or make.
>
> My other question is have any of you made your own container or is
> there a similar strength container out there that you have used or
run
> across that my be a little more applicable to letterboxing?
>
> Thank you
>

GG writes:
> We
> plan to try a round can in which we bought Irish Oatmeal. It is metal
> and closes with a tight-fitting cap like a paint can. The clue will
> need to advise boxers to bring a bottle opener, screwdriver, or other
> pry tool to loosen the top.

That sounds like it's going to be leaky. And if it's not leaky from day 1, then it will be once people start finding it, since the opening and closing of the lid will start to deform the metal. It will probably also get rusty after a season sitting outside. I think you'd be better off sticking with L&Ls.

dave




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I can believe it would happen. In this day and age people are very paranoid about strange looking packages sitting in strange places.

I sometimes worry about being spotted letterboxing by law enforcement. Now...just visualize what that looks like to someone who has no clue what it's about!

John wrote: Sound like Horse Hockey to me.... Now mind you, some Park Rangers
aren't exactly piloting the swiftest of boats...but anyone who would
call in "the Feds" and thereby have a "lock n lock" that was sitting
in the dirt, under some bark, off the side of a trail, in the middle
of "butt-crack pass" -blown to smithereens - now that's some people
with some real "issues" that need to be delved into further by some
real "couch professionals"

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "sandgbach"
wrote:
>
> Hey - a word of caution - I made a mistake of mentioning to a park
> ranger that I had planted a box and he sort of freaked out. He
said
> I had to remove it - yea right.
>
> Anyway, he was saying that a box was found in one park and the feds
> were called in and blew up someone's geo-cache because it showed up
> some evidence of gun powder (I'm not sure of all the details).
>
> So---- unless you want your box on CNN, be careful with the camo -
> (of course, I know that's tempting, too).
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Baker"
> wrote:
> >
> > I am looking for a more hardier, element proof container. Right
> now I
> > am a lock-n-lock boxer and have so far had good luck with them.
> > However, I am planning on upgrading two of my remote places from
> > rubbermaid to ammo cans. My question is do any boxers that you
> know of
> > use ammo cans? I know that they are a main stay of geocachers and
> for a
> > boxer they are a little too big for many situations. I am
figuring
> of
> > using them in remote locactions where a good hidding spot is easy
> to
> > find or make.
> >
> > My other question is have any of you made your own container or
is
> > there a similar strength container out there that you have used
or
> run
> > across that my be a little more applicable to letterboxing?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
>









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A better word of caution... don't be mentioning to park rangers that you planted a letterbox. But if you do, and they tell you to remove it -- remove it.

SpringChick


----- Original Message -----
From: sandgbach
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 7:24 PM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Really Sturdy Containers


Hey - a word of caution - I made a mistake of mentioning to a park
ranger that I had planted a box and he sort of freaked out. He said
I had to remove it - yea right.

Anyway, he was saying that a box was found in one park and the feds
were called in and blew up someone's geo-cache because it showed up
some evidence of gun powder (I'm not sure of all the details).

So---- unless you want your box on CNN, be careful with the camo -
(of course, I know that's tempting, too).

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Baker"
wrote:
>
> I am looking for a more hardier, element proof container. Right
now I
> am a lock-n-lock boxer and have so far had good luck with them.
> However, I am planning on upgrading two of my remote places from
> rubbermaid to ammo cans. My question is do any boxers that you
know of
> use ammo cans? I know that they are a main stay of geocachers and
for a
> boxer they are a little too big for many situations. I am figuring
of
> using them in remote locactions where a good hidding spot is easy
to
> find or make.
>
> My other question is have any of you made your own container or is
> there a similar strength container out there that you have used or
run
> across that my be a little more applicable to letterboxing?
>
> Thank you
>





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To me, it would also kinda depend on just what park it is and where the box
was located inside that park before necessarily hanging the "paranoid" label
on rangers and such.

For example, we have Argonne National Laboratories in Darien, IL sitting
right in the middle of a very large DuPage County Forest Preserve. I get
paranoid myself because whenever I'm too close to the Argonne property, my
cellphone tunes out completely. (I'm one of those folks who was the last
person on earth to get a cellphone but who now suffers severe separation
anxiety when I forget it at home or it's not getting any reception.)
Anyway, if a box was planted way over on the other side of the preserve
(altho any boxes in DuPage preserves are supposed to be pre-approved by the
preserve folks), paranoia might not set in too much but I can imagine law
enforcement being called if the box were placed a little too close to that
big ol' security fence surrounding Argonne and that box hadn't had any
pre-approval.

We also have the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory in Batavia, IL. That
too has some very nice forest preserve lands around it, nice dog training
field where dogs can run around free off-lead, nice bike paths, nice bison,
etc. There too, however, I wouldn't go planting any letterboxes. :-)

There are natural gas lines running thru some of our preserves and those
huge huge electrical set-ups that are surrounded by nice big high security
fencing with all kinds of keep-out and no-trespassing signs -- the "Danger
Will Robinson! Danger!" kind of signs. And two of our county preserves are
right on either side of big railroad switching stations for trains. Boxes
right in the vicinity of any of that type of stuff might seem a teensy bit
suspicious.

On the other hand, if it were a preserve where it's only claim to fame was
the nice bike path or the nice babbling brook or a winter sled hill, I would
tend to think law enforcement calling in the bomb squad might be a bit of
overkill.

~~ Mosey ~~

-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Debra Farrell
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:18 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Really Sturdy Containers


I can believe it would happen. In this day and age people are very paranoid
about strange looking packages sitting in strange places.

I sometimes worry about being spotted letterboxing by law enforcement.
Now...just visualize what that looks like to someone who has no clue what
it's about!

John wrote: Sound
like Horse Hockey to me.... Now mind you, some Park Rangers
aren't exactly piloting the swiftest of boats...but anyone who would
call in "the Feds" and thereby have a "lock n lock" that was sitting
in the dirt, under some bark, off the side of a trail, in the middle
of "butt-crack pass" -blown to smithereens - now that's some people
with some real "issues" that need to be delved into further by some
real "couch professionals"

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "sandgbach"
wrote:
>
> Hey - a word of caution - I made a mistake of mentioning to a park
> ranger that I had planted a box and he sort of freaked out. He
said
> I had to remove it - yea right.
>
> Anyway, he was saying that a box was found in one park and the feds
> were called in and blew up someone's geo-cache because it showed up
> some evidence of gun powder (I'm not sure of all the details).
>
> So---- unless you want your box on CNN, be careful with the camo -
> (of course, I know that's tempting, too).